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 Post subject: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:39 pm 
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Thread 2 of my crazy questions ,this one is rather harder then the last i think...

My Question is ~~~~~~~
If every Single Unit was in range of each other(WITHOUT PRIORITY) and they were all from different teams, In what Order would they attack each other and Who Would Win out of all of them



This one is really hard but i beleive you'll be able to answer it
Sadly noone can leave show a Replay of proof to answer this question because we'd need more then 4 players.

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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:25 pm 
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Oh, what the heck. Either the Heli or the Fighter will win. It depends coin flips to determine if the AA gets a killing shot off on the fighter before it is killed. Once the AA is killed, nothing else left can kill the fighter or the heli, but the fighter.


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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:42 pm 
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chrism wrote:
Oh, what the heck. Either the Heli or the Fighter will win. It depends coin flips to determine if the AA gets a killing shot off on the fighter before it is killed. Once the AA is killed, nothing else left can kill the fighter or the heli, but the fighter.



Ok thats a good answer but what order do u think they'd die in?

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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:49 pm 
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I actually think the fighter will win almost every single time. Heli has too get extremely lucky to win.

Inf will die first
Recon second
Art 3rd
AA fourth
Light Tank Fifth
Heavy Sixth
Heli 7th
Fighter last.

Very small chance (I think, it might not even be possible) that fighter dies before AA. Rest of order does not change.


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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:34 pm 
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too many factors to decide. Range/placement and coin-tosses alone make it an impossible answer

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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:24 am 
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why impossible, chrism aswered it :) And range is not issue, as was stated in question.

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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:20 pm 

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if range is not the issue, then:

ok, round 1, tick 20, LT shoots infantry (-5 hp) 45 left
tick 25 recon shoots infantry - 10 35 hp left
tick 34, AA shoots fighter - 22 78 hp left
fighter shoots inf - 10 25 hp left
hvy shoots inf - 12?? 13 hp left
heli shoots infantry, infantry snuffs it
infantry cannot yet shoot
tick 40 LT shoots???? art or recon, lets assume art -8 hp 67 left
tick 50 recon shoots art - 5 hp 62 left
art shoots recon - 30 45 left
tick 60 lt shoots recon - 8 hp 37 left
tick 67 AA shoots fighter - 22 66 left
fighter shoots recon -14 31 left
heavy shoots recon - 22 9 left
hvy shoots recon - 16 dead
tick 80 lt shoots art - 8 54 left
tick 100 AA shoots fighter - 22 /44 left
fighter shoots art - 14 40 left
LT shoots art - 8 32 left
hvy shoots art - 16
heli kills art

one turn done, current settings:
AA 100 hp
fighter 34 hp
LT 130 hp
hvy 210 hp 1 or 2 kills
heli 125 hp 1 or 2 kills

round 2
tick 20, Lt shoots AA - 8 hp 92 left
tick 34
AA shoots fighter - 22 hp
fighter shoots AA - 14 hp 84 left
heli shoots AA - 22 hp 62 left
hvy shoots AA - 16 hp 46 left
tick 40 LT shoots AA - 8 hp
tick 60 LT shoots AA - 8 hp (30 left)
tick 67, as long as the AA goes first or second, it kills the fighter and heli wins, if it is killed because going 3rd or 4th, then the fighter wins.

this is all based on average damage to that unit type if i recall them correctly. because all deciding units have the same 3 shots a turn, its mainly a coin toss, and the average of 50% fighter. 50% heli shows that. if the AA would do above average damage all earlier 4 times, it could have killed the fighter earlier even, or made the fighter the prio target for the recon (lower hp on the fighter than the art if the LT would shoot recon instead of art.

with these improbable but possible options, i would give the heli about 52% chance on winning


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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:55 pm 
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The assumptions you made in the order things shoot minimizes the ground damage. If you don't have those assumptions, I think fighter dies most of the time because there is more ground damage done. For example, if heli shoots inf before heavy, it kills it and heavy's damage can go on inf.


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 Post subject: Re: Randoms Crazy Questions -Thread 2
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:46 am 

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lol, i see i missed the heli shooting in round 1 tick 67.

this will improve the fighter chances a lot, allthough, whatever order, the AA will be competing in the 5th shootout (thou then probably only if it goes first or second after the fighter..

edit, nvm, i just called the heli heavy there.


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